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Joker
Первая инфа о новом сете появилась на www.mtgnews.com
Bendera
Создание выбранного игрока должно сделать харакири wink.gif
Vitodze
2Bendera
а по-японски слабо!?
DafnI
vITODZE
Ой,да ладно тут выпендривацца=)
Bendera
Цитата
а по-японски слабо!?

Любопытно, а на каком языке будет файлушка? Может опять на иврите?
Vitodze
Bendera
aka еврейский самурай легенда? laugh.gif
Eph
Зомби - Нинза на чукотском...
Авес
А гейши будут ? huh.gif А какие у них обилки? huh.gif А картинки в стиле хентай? huh.gif Хотелось бы что-нибудь с GADZILAй в смысе хенай!!! rolleyes.gif
Bendera
Цитата
А гейши будут ?  А какие у них обилки?  А картинки в стиле хентай?  Хотелось бы что-нибудь с GADZILAй в смысе хенай!!!

www.mtgnews.com-там все и найдешь
Цитата
Куда катится мир

На восток
Firestarter
Усе буде зашыбись! Конечно Камигава будет г**** полное как последние 7 изданий,но хоть будет с картинками красивыми. А гейши ваще круть они симпатичнее манамыров.

На х** Mirrodin блок!
Vitodze
DimbA

ну зачем ты так... глядишь в Камигаве ДРАКОНОВ азиацких подкинут - тебе плохо? smile.gif
Авес
b]DimbA[/b]
только не обольщайся в основном это будет GAZILA мама GADZILA папа, а дети в следующем сэте biggrin.gif
Eph
http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/VS_champions_of_kamiwaga.htm
Но самый хардкор - это вот
Freeze
это 3.14здeц........ sad.gif

Bce, nafig novoe izdanie, T2,
Ia yhogy v Warhammer40k
Joker
Это всё фигня! Вот ЭТО - карта так карта:

Gravedigger's Scorn
1BB
Sorcery
Hit each opponent with a shovel.

А вот коментарий Aaron Forsythe, почему эта карта не прошла стадию development:

We had theorized that the card didn't affect the board at all when you played it, so it wasn't worth the loss of card advantage. Matt threw it in a draft deck on a whim late on Sunday, though, and let me tell you… one crack on the noggin with the old spade and you won't be worrying about card advantage for the rest of the evening.

А лучше прочитайте статью целиком - рулез!:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/af28
Авес
Мля!!! посмотрел этот Гомигава!!! Да это же Шизофриния!!! blink.gif Герантофилия!!! blink.gif Зоофилия!!! blink.gif и даже Некрофилия!!!!! blink.gif
Bendera
Цитата
Да это же Шизофриния!!!  Герантофилия!!!  Зоофилия!!!  и даже Некрофилия!!!!!

Как я понял тебе новый сет пока нравится
Vitodze
Champions of Kamigawa (CHK) is the first and main set in the new block, with 350 cards - 110 rares, 110 uncommons, 110 commons, and 20 basic lands. It begins a brand new storyline on a brand new world - Kamigawa. The world is based on traditional Japanese culture. The pre-release is on September 18-19, 2004. CHK will be for sale on October 1st.

There is a mechanic called "Soulshift" on a handful of CHK cards. It appears only on spirit creatures, and states "Soulshift 2 (When this is put into a graveyard from play, you may return target Spirit card with converted mana cost 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.)" It isn't known if there will be cards with Soulshift 1, Soulshift 3, etc. There is a subtype of Sorcery and Instant spells called "Arcane". It isn't known if Arcane does anything itself, but we know that some cards trigger a bonus when you cast an Arcane spell. Split cards are back, this time in creature form! You cast them in one form, and when you meet a certain trigger (such as dealing damage to an opponent), you "flip" the card around (basically turn it 180 degrees). On the other half of the card is another creature with a totally different name, abilities and power/toughness. In this way, you get two creatures on one card. WotC has gone back to printing colored mana symbols on cards, which we can all appreciate. They also changed their policy on how to word discard effects. The new wording, which is should have been all along, is "target player discards a card". No more "chooses and discards" or "discards a card from his or her hand". They also changed the wording on legendary cards. Instead of "Creature - Human Legend" we will see "Legendary Creature - Human". Speaking of legends, there are at least 60 in the set. Equipment is now a permanent type of card and there are a few Japanese-style equipments in CHK. Enchant creature cards are back after being almost nonexistant in the Mirrodin block. There are no gold cards in the set. There are 50 cards of each color and 36 left over for artifacts and nonbasic lands. There are at least 5 legendary lands.

http://cards.mtgnews.com/Find/Spoilers/CK/...wa_Spoiler.html
berzzzzik
бр... дэжавю какое, где-то я это ужэ видел... в книге двери в параною по моему...
Firestarter
Дежавю было раньше например в случае с энтвайном который от кикера почти не отличается или с циклингом в онслоте. Тут пока вроде как все новое.

2 Berzzik Вань дай как нить почитать эту замечательную книгу
Joker
berzzzzik
DafnI
Прекращаем оффтоп angry.gif
berzzzzik
все, исправляюсь...
вот вам спойлер http://cards.mtgnews.com/Find/Spoilers/CK/...wa_Spoiler.html в зачатке..
вот еще каково-то попугая концепт арт http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/sw28
тут какой-то самурай легендарный http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/chk/takeno ... там еще 3.14здатая горка намалевана... надеюсь с лэнда...

Joker
Вам лично могу порекомендавать
http://journal.gotik.ru там что-то про мыло и веревку и прочие методы ощасливить нас...

Swallowing Plague -XBB
Sorcery - Arcane
Swallowing Plague deals X damage to target creature and you gain X life.
"We are recalling all forces from the Takenuma Swamp. We lose men daily to kami attacks, and it seems our defeats only encourage them further." - General Takeno, letter to Lord Konda
Illus. Dave Dorman
146/306
Uncommon

Arcane-- это уже интересно...
Firestarter
Цитата
там еще 3.14здатая горка намалевана... надеюсь с лэнда...

http://www.mtgnews.com/F/Topic/10917861389...ck_Informa.html тут есть картинки всех лэндов.

Добавлено @ [mergetime]1093508043[/mergetime]
Цитата
там еще 3.14здатая горка намалевана... надеюсь с лэнда...

http://www.mtgnews.com/F/Topic/10917861389...ck_Informa.html тут есть картинки всех лэндов.
DimbA
ах какой нездаровый ажиотаж - подождите пару недель и все увидите в реале =)
хочу японского дракона ph34r.gif
Vitodze
Waking Nightmare - 2B
Sorcery - Arcane
Target player discards two cards.
"Once each year, the oni and other evil spirits paraded through villages to disturb mortals' sleep. During the war, this parade became a nightly event." - Observations of the Kami War
Illus. Mitch Cotie
149/306
Common
Joker
2 All: Давайте хоть в этой теме не будем флудить и оффтопить. Тем более что новостей для обсуждения сейчас более чем достаточно.
Например на magicthegathering.com началось официальное preview карт из камигавы.
И ещё, как вам вот это:
From Champions of Kamigawa further, here's how legendary creatures (they're no longer creature type legends but the supertype legendary) work in Magic. When a legend comes into play, it destroys all copies of that legend in play, including itself. (Technically, the legends are "sent to the graveyard by the rules.") This means that a legend is no longer dead in your hand if your opponent beats you to getting it out. The second legend now neutralizes the first one.
Firestarter
Цитата
it destroys all copies of that legend in play, including itself

Че то не видно в этой строчке слов cant be regenerated неужели их можно будет регенерить?
А вообще ИМХО довольно глупое правило.
Joker
Firestarter
Не, регенерить будет нельзя, там же написано:
Цитата
Technically, the legends are "sent to the graveyard by the rules.")

Я думаю что тебе этот сет должен понравиться т.к. он делался по принципу что flavor важнее чем function
То бишь до сих пор Визарды сначала дизайнили весь сет, а потом прикручивали к ниму какую-то надуманую историю. А теперь они сделали наоборот. Сначала разработали и продумали до мелочей игровую вселенную и историю событий, а затем начали дизайнить картон

DimbA
Кстати, вот тебе японский дракон:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom...MorningStar.jpg

DimbA
Joker
Просто красавец, а не дракон =)
а авторы что принципиально - азиаты??? а где же короли жанра?
Joker
никуда короли жанра не делись. Джон Авон например будет рисовать земли
Eph
Сет без Бадера - КАЛ
DimbA
Eph
эх, как же ты будешь без бадера драфты играть оп Камигаве wink.gif
berzzzzik
а якi гарны там гоблыны...
berzzzzik
ой... смотрите какая цаца

Boseiju, Who Shelters All -
Legendary Land
Boseiju, Who Shelters All comes into play tapped.
Pay 2 life, T: Add 1 to your mana pool. If that mana is spent on an instant or sorcery spell, that spell can't be countered by spells or abilities.
Unknown
Joker
Ааааа. Почитал много новых карт из Камигавы. Я просто балдею, сет - супер. Ещё никода меня так не колбасило при прочтении спойлера. Особенно меня пропёрло от названия некоторых легенд.
Сначала новая механика:
Splice onto Arcane 3WW (As you play an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)
Сегодня он играет врас а завтра родину продаст:
O-Kagachi's Wrath 2WW - Rare
Sorcery - Arcane
Destroy all non-legendary creatures.
Splice onto Arcane 8WW

Персекьют отдыхает:
Break of Black Glass 2BB - Rare
Sorcery - Arcane
Target player reveals his or her hand and discards all non-legendary cards.
Splice onto Arcane 6B

Вот об этой карте я давно мечтал. Универсальный ответ против сайда и проблемных карт:
Cranial Extraction
B3 -Rare
Sorcery -Arcane
Name a nonland card. Search target player's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with that name and remove them from the game. Then that player sheffles his or her library.

Rampant growth отдыхает:
Sakura -Tribe Elder
G1
Creature -Snake Shaman
Sacrifice Sakura -Tribe Elder: Search your library for a basic land car, put that card into play tapped, then shuffle your library.
1/1

А это вообще супер:
Time Stop - 4UU
Instant
End the turn. (Remove all spells and abilities on the stack from the game, including this card. The player whose turn it is discards down to his or her maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
Illus. Scott M. Fischer
97/306
Rare


Ну и так далее..
Rotten Breath B - common
Instant - Arcane
Each player sacrifices a creature. Loose 1 life for each creature sacrificed in this way.
Splice onto Arcane B

Harlur's Breath U - common
Instant - Arcane
Draw a card.
Splice onto Arcane U

Ryusei's Breath R - common
Instant - Arcane
Deal 1 damage to target legendary creature
Splice onto Arcane R

Blesssed Breath W - common
Instant - Arcane
Target creature yu control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
Splice onto Arcane W

Constricting Breath G - common
Instant - Arcane
Each player may search their library for a basic land and put it into play tapped.
Splice onto Arcane G


Observers Guile 2UUU - Rare
Sorcery - Arcane
Target player takes an extra turn after this.
Splice onto Arcane 4UUUU

Sprading Sakura 1GG - Rare
Sorcery - Arcane
Destory target land or Artifact.
Splice onto Arcane 6GG

Kumano's Hatred 2RR - Rare
Sorcery - Arcane
Kumano's Hatred deals 4 damage to target creature or player.
This damage cannot be prevented by non-legendary spells or effects.
Splice onto Arcane 3RRR

Ultimate Word of the Soratami 4UU - Uncommon
Instant - Arcane
Counter target spell.
Splice onto Arcane - Discard a Blue card and an island.

Hondon of Cleansing Fire
W3 -Uncommon
Legendary Enchantment - Shrine
At the beginning of your upkeep, you gain 2 life for each Shrine you control

Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
WW -Rare
Legendary Creature -Fox Cleric
W1:Target Permanent you control gains protection from white until end of turn.
1: Target spell or permanent becomes white until end of turn.
2/2

Boseiju, Who Shelters All
Legendary Land
Boseiju, Who Shelters All coms into play tapped.
Tap, Pay 2 life: Add 1 to you mana pool. If that mana is spent on an instant or sorcery spell, that spell can't be countered by spells or abilities.

Blessed Breath
W -Common
Instant -Arcane
Target creature you control gains protection form the color of your choice until end of turn
Splice onto Arcane W (As you play an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)

Glimpse of Spell
G
Sorcery
Whenever you play a creature spell this turn, draw a card.

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
RRR2
Legendary Creature -Goblin Shaman
Haste
Tap: Put a creature token into play that's a copy of target nonlegendary creature you control. That creature token has haste. Sacrifice it at end of turn.
2/2

Godo, Bandit Warlord
R5 -Rare
Legendary Creature -Human Barbarian
When Godo, Bandit Warlord comes into play, you many search your library for an Equipment card and put it into play. If you do, shuffle your library.
Whenever Godo attacks for the first time each turn, untap it and all Samurai you control. After this phase, you get an additional combat phase.
3/3

Myojin of Seeing Winds
UUU7 -Rare
Legendary Creature -Spirit
Myojin of Seeing Winds comes into play with a divinity counter on it if you played it from your hand.
Myojin of Seeing Winds is indestructible as long as it has a divinity counter on it.
Remove a divinity counter from Myojin of Seeing Winds: Draw a card for each permanent you control.
3/3

Nagao, Bound by Honor
W3 -Uncommon
Legendary Creature -Human Samurai
Bushido 1
Whenever Nagao, Bound by Honor attacks, Samurai you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.
3/3


Jushi Apprentice
U1 -Rare
Creature -Human Wizard
U2 Tap: Draw a card. If you have nine or more cards in hand, flip Jushi Apprentice.
1/2
/Split Creature
Tomaya the Revealer
Legendary Creature -Human Wizard
UU3 Tap: Target player draws x cards, where X is the number of cards in your hand.
2/3





Freeze
Сет - КАЛ sad.gif
DimbA
Freeze
не нихера - механика довольно впечатляющая, такие мысли появляются - просто жуть берет ph34r.gif
Vitodze
Splice onto Arcane = альтернативная цена + buyback =)))
Firestarter
Еще один Wrath of God грустно и печально. И еще настораживает отсутствие похабных бабищ тьфу дриад то есть.
Gil
Сцептер похоже будет играть во втором типе smile.gif
Там есть чего в него засунуть.
Vitodze
еще карточки, чтобы уже все здесь было =):

Hold the Line - 1WW
Instant
Blocking creatures get +7/+7 until end of turn.
"Forgive me, Master Kami, but in the interest of my people I must halt your advance."
Illus. Ron Spears
13/306
Rare

Kami of the Ancient Law - 1W
Creature - Spirit
Sacrifice Kami of the Ancient Law: Destroy target enchantment.
2/2
Common

Reciprocate - W
Instant
Remove from the game target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
Uncommon

Yosei, the Morning Star - 4WW
Legendary Creature - Dragon Spirit
Flying
When Yosei, the Morning Star is put into a graveyard from play, target player skips his or her next untap step. Tap up to five target permanents that player controls.
5/5
Illus. Hiro Izawa
50/306
Rare


Hinder - 1UU
Instant
Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put that spell on the top or on the bottom of its owner's library insead of his or her graveyard.
Uncommon


Marrow-Gnawer - 3BB (ну вот и крысиный почти что лорд!)
Legendary Creature - Rat Rogue
All Rats have fear.
T, Sacrifice a Rat: Put X 1/1 black rat creature tokens into play, where X is the number of Rats you control.
Marrow-Gnawer united three nezumi gangs when he slew their leaders in a single night. Now they call him their first lord.
2/3
Illus. Wayne Reynolds
124/306
Rare

Rend Flesh - 2B
Instant - Arcane
Destroy target non-Spirit creature.
Common

Rend Spirit - 2B
Instant
Destroy target Spirit.
Common

Struggle for Sanity - 2BB
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. That player sets aside a card from it, then you set aside a card from it. Repeat this process until all cards in that hand have been set aside. That player returns the cards he or she set aside to his or her hand and puts the rest into his or her graveyard.
Illus. Randy Gallegos
145/306
Uncommon

Swallowing Plague - XBB
Sorcery - Arcane
Swallowing Plague deals X damage to target creature and you gain X life.
"We are recalling all forces from the Takenuma Swamp. We lose men daily to kami attacks, and it seems our defeats only encourage them further." - General Takeno, letter to Lord Konda
Illus. Dave Dorman
146/306
Uncommon

Thief of Hope - 2B
Creature - Spirit
Whenever you play a Spirit or Arcane spell, target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Soulshift 2 (When this is put into a graveyard from play, you may return target Spirit card with converted mana cost 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.)
2/2
Illus. Tim Hildebrandt
147/306
Uncommon

Villainous Ogre - 2B
Creature - Ogre Warrior
Villainous Ogre can't block.
As long as you control a Demon, Villainous Ogre has "B: Regenerate Villainous Ogre."
"The war saw the ogres emerge from their caves, reeking of blood, with the power of oni in their veins." - Observations of the Kami War
3/2
Illus. Tony Szczudlo
148/306
Common

Waking Nightmare - 2B
Sorcery - Arcane
Target player discards two cards.
"Once each year, the oni and other evil spirits paraded through villages to disturb mortals' sleep. During the war, this parade became a nightly event." - Observations of the Kami War
Illus. Mitch Cotie
149/306
Common

Wicked Akuba - BB
Creature - Spirit
B: Target player dealt damage by Wicked Akuba this turn loses 1 life.
The sound of children weeping is a song that fills its heart with joy.
2/2
Illus. Ittoku
250/306
Common

Akki Avalanchers - R
Creature - Goblin
Sacrifice a land: Akki Avalanchers get +2/+0 until end of turn. Play this ability only once each turn.
Among Godo's hordes, "beware of falling rocks" came to mean "akki live nearby."
1/1
Illus. Matt Thompson
251/306
Common

Akki Coalflinger - 1RR
Creature - Goblin Shaman
First Strike
R,{Tap}: Attacking creatures gain first strike until end of turn.
No matter where you find them, goblins love rocks.
2/2
Illus. Nottsuo
252/306
Uncommon

Akki Lavarunner - 3R
Creature - Goblin Warrior
Haste
When Akki Lavarunner deals damage to an opponent, flip it.
[Tok-Tok, Volcano Born
Legendary Creature - Goblin Shaman
Protection from red
If a red source would deal damage to a player, it deals that much damage plus 1 to that player instead.
2/2]
1/1
Illus. Matt Cavotta
153/306
Rare

Ryusei, the Falling Star - 5R (странно а у этого дракона нет даблкоста)
Legendary Creature - Dragon Spirit
Flying
When Ryusei, the Falling Star is put into a graveyard from play, it deals 5 damage to each creature without flying.
5/5
Rare

Stone Rain - 2R
Sorcery
Destroy target land.
Common


Stone Rain + Molten Rain + Creeping Mold + Sprading Sakura + Sakura-Tribe Elder (и др. мана аксселирация)= возвращение старого доброго R/G LD, который имхо будет неплохо смотреться в этом метагейме
(tooth отдыхает, а уж чего чего, а affinity-хейта у РГ будет достаточно)
PS. и конечно же + Eternal Witness + Viridian Shaman
Bendera
Доходчиво объясните эту новую механику, а то у нас в деревне таких слов не знают
2 SidED DiE
2 Bendera :
представь: ты играешь белой виней, а я бело-синим контролем. у тебя на руке геддон, на столе четыре земли и куча теней.
у меня остров, две равнины и две карты на руке (первая: U, instant - arcane, conter target sorcery spell, вторая: 2WW, sorcery, Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated. Splice onto Arcane WW).
ты играешь геддон, я в стек играю синий спелл, показываю белый, плачу в сумме UWW.
переход. wink.gif
Bloodroad
2 SidED DiE Белый спелл остаётся в руке или идёт на грейв?
2 SidED DiE
Цитата
Splice onto Arcane (As you play an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell)

написано ведь человеческим языком.
когда объявляешь Арканный спелл ("instant - Arcane" или "sorcery - Arcane"), можешь показать (не сыграть, не дискардить - просто показать) карту из руки, на которой есть "Splice onto Arcane". далее нужно оплатить кастинг кост, который должен равняться сумме коста спела и коста splice-а. на стек идет арканный спелл. на резолве выполняется текст арканного спелла, потом текст сплайсовой карты.

я, конечно, не ЖаЖа, но верю себе.
Bendera
2 SidED DiE
Ситуацию представил. Жутко не понравилось ohmy.gif
Vitodze
еще одна легенда:

Horobi, Death's Wail - 2BB
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Flying
Whenever a creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, destroy that creature.
"From the ashes of Reito rose a new kami. And thereafter at every battle came Horobi, Death's Wail."
-The History of Kamigawa
4/4
Illus. John Bolton
117/306
Rare
berzzzzik
у........ какой боец...
Joker
А вот так нынче будут выглядеть гоблины:

ЗЫ: Остальные расы можно посмотреть здесь
Vitodze
а мне концепты очень понравились... да и сет пока радует...
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